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Today, Alias ends. In the US, which is why I'll hate everyone on my friends list and pursue them with everlasting vengeance if someone spoils me for the finale until I hold it in my hands and have watched it myself. Please, please, please, use discreet lj cuts. It's the last time.

Of course, once I've seen it, I'm going to need some virual hand holding. I mean, I pretty much resigned myself to the fact my favourite character would not outlive this show when I realized said favourite character was Sloane all the way back in season 1. You don't fall for someone introduced as the main antagonist and even later on shown to be highly ambiguous at best without accepting he/she'll bite the dust in the end. (Well, okay, except for Scorpius on Farscape.) So even before 30 Seconds made it inevitable, I did not expect Arvin Sloane to outlive the season. (Except in that time travel fashion [livejournal.com profile] rozk suggested.) But I very much mind how he dies. Sydney killing Sloane I'm okay with. (In fact, this is the way it would make most sense, and not just because she's the leading character: let's call this the Merlin and Nimue ending.) Jack killing Sloane I'm okay with. (This would be, in lack of better terms and to give you a real strange mental image, the Buffy and Faith ending.) Sloane surprising everyone and sacrificing himself I would be okay with. (His intials are A.S., after all.) You know what I would not be okay with?

Sloane: makes villanous speech.
Syd: says hero thing, but can't bring herself to shoot him.
Irina: steps out of the shadows and kills Sloane.
SpyFam: At last together again! Off we go.


Also known as an unholy mixture of the Lilah Morgan copout (see also: AtS, Billy) and certain season finales recently aired in the US. I'd hate, hate, hate that.

So, anything but that, I can cope with, and even love in my masochistic way. Mr. Abrams, pretty please?

Of course, there is always fanfiction and roleplay. Check out Lilah Morgan and Irina Derevko playing cliff, shag, marry, and admire the genius. *g* On the angsty side of things, there is Comedy, [livejournal.com profile] kangeiko's second tackling of Jack/Nadia, and Nadia in general, written for [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa, who is in hospital right now.

Moving on to other fandoms of the comicverse kind: For the Kingdom of Heaven is a fantastic take on Hank McCoy (alias Beast) in the aftermath of recent events in Joss' Astonishing X-Men. As X3 will use one of Joss' plot lines which is crucial for this fanfic, to wit, the "cure", I can only hope they do it half as well as [livejournal.com profile] c_elisa does it here.

Then there is The Author of All This (Our Sorrow) , a story featuring Mina Murray in the aftermath of the second volume of Alan Moore's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. This is comicverse Mina in her complexity, and I adore it.

Speaking of complex women: check out Take Your Carriage Clock And Shove It, which features one of my favourite Sandman characters, Thessaly. (Note to Bill Willingham: this is how you write Thessaly. See, people other than Neil Gaiman can do it, so you have no excuse.) Thessaly the ruthless survivor, and yet aware of the cost. Love it.

Date: 2006-05-22 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahtzee63.livejournal.com
It will be interesting to see. I, too, hope Irina doesn't deliver the final blow; it should have to be Sydney, really. (As much as I am into the Jack-Sloane dynamic, Jack -- as I continually remind myself -- is not the lead character.)

I have a bad feeling about Irina surviving this, too. I worry about Jack. I worry, basically. It's gonna be a long day.

Question: To what extent is Ned actually Sloane? After Sloane proper dies, does Ned suggest his survival in another form? Discuss.

Date: 2006-05-22 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com
I have a bad feeling about Irina surviving this, too. I worry about Jack. I worry, basically. It's gonna be a long day.

Yes, this is me too. All the first generation spies are on my mind today. They all seem so fair-game-ish. Meep.

Date: 2006-05-22 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Re: Irina, I think the fake killing in s4 is sort of a life insurance. Except if they go by the "two times fake death, third time real" rule... I fret, too. Jack - I think Jack's popularity is a big protector, because JJ might want to keep his option for Alias: The Movie open, and you can't do Alias without SpyDaddy. Though yes, he might go for a big killing sweep and remove all the First Generation Spies so that it's really a new world, with Sydney in the mother position exclusively and no one's daughter anymore.

*frets some more*

Question: To what extent is Ned actually Sloane? After Sloane proper dies, does Ned suggest his survival in another form? Discuss.

Oh, that's a good one. Hm. When last seen, Ned was in a state of permanent schizophrenia, so I guess the imprint of Sloane's memories and personality will stay with him. As to for how much that makes him Sloane - on the one hand, I'm tempted to consider them like the two John Crichtons in Farscape who were identical at first when the copy was made and then slowly showed differences because of different experiences. And you can see that in In Dreams when Nadia comes in because of course Cloane/Ned is missing the Nadia experience entirely. As, it appears, the Jacquelyn memory, and considering he's the product of a brain scan taken from Sloane not later than early s2, he can't recall Emily's death, either. Without all of this, he's only an fragmentary Sloane, but nonetheless there is something genuine there as well.

On the other hand, his original Ned Bulger memories are back, and we don't know how much Ned's own personality influences and changes the Sloane one. So maybe we should consider him a hybrid?

Date: 2006-05-22 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahtzee63.livejournal.com
I agree that Irina's previous "deaths" ought to protect her, but OTOH, if Irina lives, they have to explain where she goes from there: I can't quite see them ending it with her just dashing off as per usual habit.

Whereas with Jack, if he lives, you know what he's doing. APO, guarding Sydney, being inexplicably amusing to Isabelle. OTOH, if they are taking the cheap route to Maximum Emotional Impact, Jack's death is certainly the quickest and easiest way.

I am very much hoping the SpyRents both make it out. Not only b/c I love them, but also because Sydney's already lost her sister; how much family can she lose before you have a really ghastly depressing finale?

Date: 2006-05-22 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com
Ooh, pretty fanfic recs! Must read the LXG and Sandman ones.

Date: 2006-05-22 06:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kangeiko
thanks for the rec honey. and thanks for all those yummy comic recs too - must check them out!

Date: 2006-05-23 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-elisa.livejournal.com
Thank you for the rec!

There seem to be some promising signs about how the cure will be handled in X3, but I don't know how it's going to play out in the plot.

Date: 2006-05-23 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violaswamp.livejournal.com
Jack killing Sloane I'm okay with. (This would be, in lack of better terms and to give you a real strange mental image, the Buffy and Faith ending.)

*snorts* Yeah, substitute two old men for the two hot young girls. But I get what you're saying. The relationships are similar in some ways.

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